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15th-Jan-2006 07:53 pm(no subject)
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I am sitting here in tears. Once again, my daughter has refused to go to sleep for the night. Every time we tried to put her down, she immediately made this horrific shrieking/screaming sound that only escalated as we tried to leave the room. So now, my husband has taken her for a drive to get her to sleep, which we end up doing 3 or 4 times a week. And it seems so utterly useless and stupid to jump through all these freaking hoops when she's just going to be awake again in less than 3 hours. And again within another three hours. And so on throughout the night. Then she'll wake up for the day before dawn, screaming. And spend yet another day crabby, whiny, and grumpy.

How did I muck this up so completely? Does anyone else have a baby who is never happy?
15th-Jan-2006 08:10 pm - Holy sleeping babies, Batman!!
beatrice
Okay, D has just gone down for his night time sleep on the third night. This is what's happened so far.

Last night, he fell asleep in 11 minutes. Amazingly, he slept from 8pm to 7am this morning. I was gobsmacked. He had never, EVER, slept through the whole night. He had two naps today, during which he slept for an hour and a half and then an hour.

Tonight, we gave him his bath, swaddled him from the chest down, had a read, sang his lullaby, gave him kisses and cuddles, put him in his cot, turned off the lights and left. Not a peep. C and I waited around 10 minutes, looking at each other in shock, before we went in to check. D was fast asleep.

Neither of us can still believe it and hardly dare to hope.
14th-Jan-2006 08:51 pm - Progress (?) report.
beatrice
I've been a bit of a wreck all day, worrying about the crying and how it will affect little D. Probably fortunately, it's having more of an impact on me than on him. He's still been pretty happy today so hopefully he is taking it all in his stride.

So, last night he went down for his first sleep of the night in around half an hour from the time we put him to bed. He woke up at 1.20am and again at 5.45am. A vast improvement over the regular two hourly wakings. At the 1.20am waking it took him around an hour and 10 minutes to get back to sleep, but with less crying and a few quiet periods. At the 5.45am waking it took 45 minutes before we went back to sleep and then slept in until 8.20am.

He woke with a smile and after a few cuddles he had a good long feed. Normally he seems to snack because he feeds so frequently, and particularly since he feeds two hourly during the night - although they're not large feeds, primarily comfort feeds (he's usually asleep within a few seconds of taking the breast) he still gets a bit in. So when he's up for the day, he only has a small feed because he's not truly hungry. And again when I feed him to sleep before his nap, and so the cycle repeats during the day. Today, at each feed I was satisfied that he had a proper feed and was full at the end.

Today, we put him down for his first nap at 11.00 and it took around 35 minutes for him to get to sleep. He slept for an hour and a half, rather than his regular 30 minutes. Now, this is a vast improvement, but it also throws out our schedule which was based on his 30 minute naps, so I'm not sure what to do about his afternoon nap. Normally it's at 3.00pm but since he woke at 1.00pm it would have been too early to put him down. So we tried at 4.15pm (we meant to put him down at 4.00pm but didn't get home in time) and he cried and played on and off until 5.00pm before we got him up - perhaps he just wasn't tired enough to sleep. Any advice on scheduling his two naps during the day?

Tonight's bedtime: he had his last milk feed at 7.20pm, his bath at 7.30pm and we had a quiet read but he got fussy, so we swaddled him with his arms loose, sang to him a bit and put him to bed after lots of kisses and cuddles. It took 11 minutes for him to fall asleep.

We're both cautiously hopeful.

...

Aside: I know that he will really benefit from putting himself to sleep and getting back to sleep during night time wakings, but all day I've felt sick about the thought that I'm no longer going to be feeding him to sleep. It seems completely selfish, I know, but it has been so precious having D fall asleep mid-feed at the breast. He falls asleep so calmly and happily and I just about burst into tears when I think that that's all over. Silly, isn't it?
13th-Jan-2006 08:45 pm - First night.
assassin
Oh my God.

We started controlled crying tonight and I'm sure I cried as much as little D did. We started with 3 minutes, then 5 then 7 then 10 minutes, intending to continue with 10 minutes until he fell asleep. He's generally a happy baby who hardly ever cries so to hear him scream while I'm steps away and able to immediately put an end to it by picking him up and feeding him is heartbreaking. I have never heard him scream so much as during that 7 minute wait.

But he's asleep. He fell asleep before we got to the 10 minute visit. Let's see how long he (and I) last.
12th-Jan-2006 04:39 pm(no subject)
http://illustmaker.abi-station.com/index
Greetings and salutations! My son is 10 months old. We've fallen into some bad habits for his sleeping, which I originally did anyway, since he was a preemie and needed to eat often. But now my husband and I are re-training him to not fall asleep to a nursing. (I know he can fall asleep on his own, he does it just fine at daycare). Next up, and much harder, training him that waking up in the middle of the night does not automatically mean he gets fed. Oy, I'm not looking forward to that. I'm thinking about taking a week off from work for that. I'm anticipating lots of crying and rocking and patting and the exact opposite for amount of sleep.
11th-Jan-2006 10:46 pm - Naps
claire
I don't know how this happened, but my daughter will only nap in the car. Every once and a while she falls asleep nursing and stays asleep long enough for it to be counted as a nap. But that's getting rarer and rarer. The only way I can be sure she'll get a nap at all is to drive her around for about 20 minutes, then park until she wakes up. She falls asleep so easily in the car--minimal fussing, and she will usually sleep for at least an hour. But I need that naptime to make dinner and do laundry and sweep--none of which I can accomplish parked in front of the Target.

Has anyone had success getting a baby to nap in a non-preferred place? Or, barring that, successfully transferring a sleeping infant from carseat to bed? Tell me how, please.

If it helps, she is almost 13 months old (13 months old on Friday the 13th, spooky, no?).
10th-Jan-2006 09:50 am(no subject)
beatrice
Our son is around five and a half months old. He's always been an average sleeper. Since he was around four weeks old, his daytime naps have been no longer than 30 - 45 minutes. At 12 weeks, we tried to teach him to sleep independently. We used a method recommended by a Melbourne sleep centre: you swaddle baby and put him on his side and pat and shush him until he stops crying, usually in 15 minute increments. Once he's calm, you stop patting/shushing and let baby drift off to sleep on his own. This is meant to take anywhere between a few days and three weeks at most to work. We used it with D for six weeks and he screamed at every single sleep and nap time. So we gave up.

Since he's been about four months old I've gone back to feeding him to sleep and if he doesn't fall asleep on the boob, then we resort to rocking and patting. He falls asleep fairly easily and usually with no crying so I was happy to continue this way for a while. However, a few things have happened lately. I was hit with really bad sciatica about a month ago and am still suffering with back and leg pain, so the rocking and patting is almost impossible. During the day, it is becoming clear that the 30 minute naps are no longer enough. While he still wakes up happy, he gets grumpy and irritable much sooner than he used to. And his night time sleeps are really deteriorating. His bedtime is around 8.00pm. We are up every two hours until 4.00am, and then it's almost every hour until he's up for the day at between 7.00 and 8.30am. He will usually only go back to sleep with a feed, although sometimes he'll be awake for over an hour before he's finally back asleep.

So, this weekend, we're starting controlled crying. I'm hoping it will teach him to sleep independently. Particularly, that he'll be able to go back to sleep fairly easily after the night time wakings. And maybe his daytime naps will get extended. Everyone I know who has tried controlled crying seems to have had great success. But I'm terrified to try it, even though I know he will benefit from it if it works. After months of getting to sleep with no crying, it breaks my heart to think that he might be crying his little lungs out while I count the minutes before I can go in to comfort him.
8th-Jan-2006 12:07 pm - Glorious sleep!
I'll introuduce myself, My name is Erin, I'm 25 I have a 7 month old named Peyton. He's such a good boy, rarely throws fits, rarely screams, jsut an all around good kid.. Until 9pm.. Then he gets rotten. And BOY does he get rotten.
He's a co-sleeper, predominately. We've had a good schedule since he was 3 months old Where I'll start the wind down procedure around 9pm, Jammies, Food, Clean diaper.. etc etc. Then He's out by ten, I lay him in HIS bed, and he would sleep til 4, wake up, I'll bring him to bed with me, nurse him and sleep til 9 in the morning. it was glorious!!.. WAS..

It all went down hill about a month ago, I rearranged his room, He started refusing to stay asleep when I laid him down, so I rearranged it back(silly concept) And it helped a little bit. Started laying him on his belly, It helped him a little bit. And turned on a loud fan, That helped. Well lately I cannot get him to go to sleep. I normally nurse him and rock him to sleep. I WANT it that way. I want to be able to do this with all of my kids for awhile if I can. Well, he's been fighting so hard twisting and screaming, just being a tyrant! So I've just been trying to let him cry it out. That worked ONE night, and then I gave up, I hate hearing the little guy cry.

I Have noticed him being terribly drooly, and mopey, so I bought some teething tablets, and he slept for almost 6 hours straight last night!!! SIX HOURS! I haven't slept that many consecutive hours since I was 7 months pregnant! I don't think this has alot to do with the past weeks of sleep-fighting, but its definately worked so far.

Here's hoping he'll keep sleeping because of the tablets!(Hylands teething tablets) And he'll get alot of Pain-free sleep!
8th-Jan-2006 02:02 am - Sleep Frustration
Apple
We've done the "No Cry Sleep Solution" religiously for many weeks - my son won't have any of it.

It's time to sleep, we do the bedtime routine. Tonight, though, when he wakes up, he won't soothe himself, even though I know he knows how to do so. He cries if I hold him, he cries if I don't hold him, I've checked and changed his diaper, put on more cream for his itchy face and head (eczema), and given him Tylenol (it seemed like he must hurt, somewhere, if he's acting this way, and he had an ear infection less than two weeks ago, so there could still be some fluid in his ears). Nope, none of it is working. He's in his crib crying right now because there is nothing more that I can do. Not a thing. Holding and shhhing and rocking don't work - he still cries. Feeding him - as soon as he's done, he cries again. Besides, since 9, he's been fed EVERY F-ING HOUR!!!!!! He doesn't need that much - he doesn't - what is the matter with my son? Why will he not sleep? He did great for the last two nights - so what's changed???????

And the lovely part is that I can no longer function like I used to function on two hours of sleep, which is what it looks like I'm getting tonight. I can't do a thing. I can't focus, I can't DRIVE, and I'm supposed to be at new mom's group later today. I can't think, and I really am non-functional, and somewhat dangerously so, on too little sleep. The real problem is that, even after Daddy gets up in the morning, I won't be able to sleep because I CAN'T SLEEP IN THE DAYTIME! And Daddy took all these nights during the week, so it really is my turn.

I'm too old.
My son deserves someone who can actually do this.
8th-Jan-2006 05:49 pm(no subject)
beatrice
Hello world.
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